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imageSteve is talking about tasers and taser related deaths

I remember when we got a few tasers. The rules for using them were pretty strict, they were considered as firearm for all intents and purposes. Using them as a method to "subdue" people once they are handcuffed would fall under the category of torture. I can just imagine what I, personally, would do to anyone who tried that, and I would be the only first step in the chain.

Then, of course, you have the nice legal situation where we literally had to get a doctor's permit to use it. The open fire conditions where the same, but if the inmate had a heart problem, we were to shoot using old fashion bullets rather than use a taser. Old fashion firearms didn't need a doctor's permit to shoot.

This is a screwed up world. Then again, we never gotten into a situation where we actually had to shoot someone, for which I am grateful. I abhor violence. It begets too much paperwork.


Tom Opgenorth

So how would you know if an inmate had a heart problem? Or, what would happen if they had an undiscovered heart problem?

I remember in the army undergoing some "Aid to a Civil Power" training (i.e. riot control). Officially it was explained to use that under certain circumstances rubber bullets would be used as a "less lethal" alternative to "live" ammunition.

Of course, most people don't realize that rubber bullets aren't totally rubber - typically they have a metal core. And, getting hit with a rubber bullet in the head can be just as effective as your typical bullet.

Ayende Rahien

Inmates goes through medical check on acceptance. Undiscovered heart problem would likely cause... issues.

All the "less lethal" stuff is just that, it is less lethal, not unlethal

Tim B

All I can think of is " Don't tase me bro!"

fyi your submission form rejects valid addresses! (specifically the plus kind, like abc+def@xyz.com)

Lucas G

What's not entirely clear is that "Peace Officers" are tasering people for quite literally speaking back. Some of the deaths in my brother's town include an 80 year old senial woman.

Tell me, what the HELL can an 80 year old unarmed woman possibly do to an officer that would warrant a taser?

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