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A first look at the new RavenDB UI

Originally posted at 12/1/2010

There are still stuff to be done, but it is looking quite impressive.

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You’ll be able to see a release of this in the next week or so.

Exciting!

Especially given the sort of things that we expect to be able to do with this.

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Igal Tabachnik
12/01/2010 10:04 AM by
Igal Tabachnik

Wow, Metro inspired?

I really like it!

But wasn't there a web interface?

theouteredge
12/01/2010 10:21 AM by
theouteredge

Looking very nice, I do like the Metro UI, is this a web based still or have you implemented it Silverlight/WPF?

Ayende Rahien
12/01/2010 11:29 AM by
Ayende Rahien

Igal, there is a web interface, but we want to move to a more capable platform for the things we want

NC
12/01/2010 11:32 AM by
NC

I don't really like it. I'm sorry, it looks like a really bad flash website to me. The Prof interface is much nicer IMO.

Scooletz
12/01/2010 12:34 PM by
Scooletz

Looks nice, but I'd like to get a nice color palette like in the Uber Prof :P

Peter
12/01/2010 12:50 PM by
Peter

I like it! Looks a bit like the Zune software UI, with the less-is-more, let-the-UI-get-out-of-the-way idea.

Alex Simkin
12/01/2010 02:23 PM by
Alex Simkin

One of screenshots contains button "Save" the other contains icon of diskette. I would recommend to stick with one or the other. (I would prefer "Save" because my kids doesn't even know what diskette is but it is well established icon.)

josh
12/01/2010 03:36 PM by
josh

Very Nice!! I've been thinking about RavenDB lately for some upcoming work too.

Steve
12/01/2010 03:41 PM by
Steve

Further nitpick, the vertical alignments are also inconsistant (for example, "ID" in the second pic v. "name" in the third pic).

Consistency is paramount in good UI development.

Jarf
12/01/2010 03:46 PM by
Jarf

@ Steve - The ID is referring to a document and the Name is referring to an Index. They are different concepts, so the inconsistency is actually consistent ;)

Simon Bartlett
12/01/2010 04:02 PM by
Simon Bartlett

@Jarf - Steve isn't talking about the inconsistently in naming - but the inconsistency in element (label/textbox) alignment between screens.

Steve
12/01/2010 04:18 PM by
Steve

@Jarf,

As Simon pointed out, that is not what I meant. I meant layout. "ID" is valign top and "name" is valign bottom.

Other problems I see off the top of my head, Text Areas are handled differently in Pic 2 and Pic 3 as well (pic 3 is better IMO). I'm also not thrilled about the customize buttons being below "customize" and almost touching "field".

All nitpick-ish I know, but things that would drive me crazy.

Chris Patterson
12/01/2010 07:41 PM by
Chris Patterson

What's that thing above the red X on the last image? What's it supposed to do?

Bertrand Le Roy
12/01/2010 09:09 PM by
Bertrand Le Roy

Love the Metro style on top, but I think the icons are not in sync with the idea: rounded corners, bright colors and cartoony look don't go so well with Metro.

Harry Steinhilber
12/01/2010 09:42 PM by
Harry Steinhilber

I like the new look. Though I'm surprised no one has commented on the obvious abbreviation for Raven DB Management Studio => RDBMS. :-)

James L
12/01/2010 11:21 PM by
James L

Looks excciting but too many fonts spoil the appearance.

David Pendray
12/02/2010 04:05 AM by
David Pendray

Will the index screen of this UI include creating/editing of the TransformResults part of an index? This would be really useful.

jalchr
12/03/2010 09:36 AM by
jalchr

I can't see where can I do patch operations ... are they part of current release ?

Ayende Rahien
12/03/2010 03:13 PM by
Ayende Rahien

Jalchr,

"first look", remember?

Karim
12/08/2010 12:54 AM by
Karim

The UI is looking good for now, but I think that you're missing one fundamental point.

The zune-like UI is implemented in Zune. Zune is a multimedia software and using it is entertaining. On the other hand, your software is a data-intensive application which should be used easily and practically.

You cannot use big font with data intensive applications, you cannot use any fancy-looking UI (even if it gives an impression of being clean and minimal - but part from that minimalism is the space between elements) to an application where the most important aspect is the data that it presents, not the joy of using it.

Try to look at the available data-intensive apps and try to use the "standard" (or the data-centric) ones and compare that with the fancier and more exotic counterparts and you'll see.

Ayende Rahien
12/08/2010 09:40 PM by
Ayende Rahien

Karim,

The reasons for this UI aren't so much for providing a data centric app.

It is expected that you'll mostly work with the code, this is just to allow you to peek into the database, administer it and watch what is going on.

Sohail Iqbal
12/12/2010 04:12 PM by
Sohail Iqbal

Nice, but too fancy for a DB Admin app. Moreover, since its all about the .Net Eco System, I was wondering if there was a Visual Studio Plugin to do the DB Admin stuff, which may also harness some if its editing features... say IntelliSense :)

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