http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660You guys will never get this thing coded. I've been following along and the ditch is getting exponentially deeper by the day. You're to the point now that 1 question is leading to 10+ new questions. This project is beginning to look like a normal corporate project now. Wait, didn't I already say you guys will never get this thing coded?http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment14http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment14Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:16:33 GMTJeroenH, Yes, that is part of the initial check.http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment12http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment12Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:25:13 GMTMatthew, Those steps are done as part of the acceptance cycle. Basically, there is a big building with a U shape corridors, that has stations for different parts of the processhttp://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment11http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment11Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:24:38 GMTIs "searching" whether the Inmate was previously held typically part of the process of accepting the inmate? http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment10http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment10Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:02:34 GMTIf some of these steps are done by external entities (e.g. intelligence) and others can take time (sorting out warrants) at what point is an inmate considered "Accepted"? What is an inmate considered if he is being held but the warrants aren't sorted out yet (waiting for paperwork to arrive)?http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment9http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment9Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:23:23 GMTSSII, Yes, tracking who did what is importanthttp://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment8http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment8Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:47:38 GMTWhat kind of trackability do we need along the way, for instance - who brought in the entrance paperwork - who was the doctor who did the physical exam and so on. I mean, is it useful/required to track every personnel who interacted with the inmate during the process? Or is that overkill?http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment7http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment7Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:48:30 GMTMorten, They can happen in parallel, mostly. For example, the first part of the Inmate identification requires him, but afterward he can go to Medical while we go through the Warrantshttp://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment6http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment6Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:15:14 GMTIs the process of accepting an inmate as a sequential checklist to go through or can these things occur in parallel, such as for example intelligence gathering and placement?http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment5http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment5Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:12:03 GMTMorten, Yes, we track additional identification information for the Inmate. You can see it in the screen shots that I posted. We usually hold to any id that he has (goes into his "checked baggage" :-) ), and in the Dossier, we record the details that we care about and also keep a scan of that. As for names, that is a bit complex, depending on the prison. In some prisons, you track "First Name, Last Name", in another, you track: "First Name, Father Name, Grandfather Name, Last Name"http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment4http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment4Tue, 05 Jul 2011 08:57:05 GMTSo starting with step 1. Do we want to track how the Inmate was identified? ie. passport vs. ID-card vs. Court papers? If so do we want to track the number of the passport/ID-card? Names, are these similar to that of a passport, where we have middle name surname, first name and last name? http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment3http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment3Tue, 05 Jul 2011 08:12:19 GMTPaul, Sure, it may be a murderer, and you are a minimum security prison. Or a problem with the Warrants, or a sick Inmate that we can't hold, etc. It is fairly common. We need to record that in Macto, because the way it usually works, I reject the guy, and then someone from above a day later says: "You'll do it anyway."http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment2http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment2Mon, 04 Jul 2011 14:42:26 GMTAre there cases when you get to stage 5 and then don't accept the Inmate? If so, does that Inmate's Dossier still need to be recorded in Macto?http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment1http://ayende.com/51201/macto-getting-started-you-never-forget-your-first-inmate#comment1Mon, 04 Jul 2011 14:20:31 GMT