http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660I know that it isn't about technical stuff, but will event sourcing be proposed as a solution. It seems, that it's a perfect fit for it.http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment7http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment7Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:20:32 GMTChris, Yes, _lots_ of paperwork. The Dossier have a physical copy that is stored somewhere in the Legal dept. Ideally, we scan all those documents in and have a copy of them electronically. http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment6http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment6Mon, 04 Jul 2011 05:03:21 GMTI am assuming a lot of the steps in the chain have physical documents that go with them, the actual signed warrants etc. I also assume that the real documents need to be produced when needed, rather than just a print out "our computer says he should still be here". How is this sort of documentation currently managed in a paper prison, are those papers kept in the prisoners dossier or seperately? "Here is the warrant cabinet" Does macto have a role in helping manage and track those physical documents as well as their digital representations?http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment5http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment5Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:59:09 GMTPaul, 24 hours start from the moment the arrest is done. For practical purposes, when they put the handcuffs on you. There are manual processes, sure. The system is basically a file cabinet, nothing more. Detention is usually in days, and it is from midnight the day it was given and counting forward for how many days it is for.http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment4http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment4Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:53:55 GMTI'm still not quite clear on the legal side of the domain. For instance, when does the 24 hour period for the arrest legally begin? When they are placed in the police car, or at some specific point when they are processed at the prison? If the system is not operational for any reason, would that be a manual process of recording the time? Also when is the detention time determined? When they are placed before the judge or when they return to the station?http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment3http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment3Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:47:45 GMTPual, Usually, no. The way it works, we need to be able to look at previous versions of the Dossier. So you can page backward in time and see all the changes.http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment2http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment2Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:30:43 GMTDoes this mean that the user has to specify the time when something happened (e.g. The judge granted detention) rather than relying on the current time? If so, what would the system do when the detention time was entered? Warn the user that they have exceeded the lawful period?http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment1http://ayende.com/50177/macto-non-functional-concerns-you-are-a-legal-system#comment1Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:26:53 GMT