http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Nice, but too fancy for a DB Admin app. Moreover, since its all about the .Net Eco System, I was wondering if there was a Visual Studio Plugin to do the DB Admin stuff, which may also harness some if its editing features... say IntelliSense :) http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment24http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment24Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:12:35 GMTKarim, The reasons for this UI aren't so much for providing a data centric app. It is expected that you'll mostly work with the code, this is just to allow you to peek into the database, administer it and watch what is going on. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment23http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment23Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:40:34 GMTThe UI is looking good for now, but I think that you're missing one fundamental point. The zune-like UI is implemented in Zune. Zune is a multimedia software and using it is entertaining. On the other hand, your software is a data-intensive application which should be used easily and practically. You cannot use big font with data intensive applications, you cannot use any fancy-looking UI (even if it gives an impression of being clean and minimal - but part from that minimalism is the space between elements) to an application where the most important aspect is the data that it presents, not the joy of using it. Try to look at the available data-intensive apps and try to use the "standard" (or the data-centric) ones and compare that with the fancier and more exotic counterparts and you'll see. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment22http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment22Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:54:16 GMTJalchr, "first look", remember? http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment21http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment21Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:13:34 GMTI can't see where can I do patch operations ... are they part of current release ? http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment20http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment20Fri, 03 Dec 2010 09:36:21 GMTDavid, Yes, it would http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment19http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment19Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:36:07 GMTWill the index screen of this UI include creating/editing of the TransformResults part of an index? This would be really useful. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment18http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment18Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:05:33 GMTLooks excciting but too many fonts spoil the appearance. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment17http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment17Wed, 01 Dec 2010 23:21:35 GMTI like the new look. Though I'm surprised no one has commented on the obvious abbreviation for Raven DB Management Studio => RDBMS. :-) http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment16http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment16Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:42:16 GMTLove the Metro style on top, but I think the icons are not in sync with the idea: rounded corners, bright colors and cartoony look don't go so well with Metro. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment15http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment15Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:09:23 GMTWhat Silverlight editor control are you using? Have you seen the Actipro one? It has IntelliSense and QuickInfo and a bunch of other features. [www.actiprosoftware.com/.../default.aspx](http://www.actiprosoftware.com/products/dotnet/silverlight/syntaxeditor/default.aspx)http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment14http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment14Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:51:21 GMTWhat's that thing above the red X on the last image? What's it supposed to do? http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment13http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment13Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:41:25 GMT@Jarf, As Simon pointed out, that is not what I meant. I meant layout. "ID" is valign top and "name" is valign bottom. Other problems I see off the top of my head, Text Areas are handled differently in Pic 2 and Pic 3 as well (pic 3 is better IMO). I'm also not thrilled about the customize buttons being below "customize" and almost touching "field". All nitpick-ish I know, but things that would drive me crazy. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment12http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment12Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:18:44 GMT@Jarf - Steve isn't talking about the inconsistently in naming - but the inconsistency in element (label/textbox) alignment between screens. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment11http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment11Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:02:22 GMT@ Steve - The ID is referring to a document and the Name is referring to an Index. They are different concepts, so the inconsistency is actually consistent ;) http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment10http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment10Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:46:57 GMTFurther nitpick, the vertical alignments are also inconsistant (for example, "ID" in the second pic v. "name" in the third pic). Consistency is paramount in good UI development. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment9http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment9Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:41:38 GMTVery Nice!! I've been thinking about RavenDB lately for some upcoming work too. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment8http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment8Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:36:09 GMTOne of screenshots contains button "Save" the other contains icon of diskette. I would recommend to stick with one or the other. (I would prefer "Save" because my kids doesn't even know what diskette is but it is well established icon.) http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment7http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment7Wed, 01 Dec 2010 14:23:53 GMTI like it! Looks a bit like the Zune software UI, with the less-is-more, let-the-UI-get-out-of-the-way idea. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment6http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment6Wed, 01 Dec 2010 12:50:20 GMTLooks nice, but I'd like to get a nice color palette like in the Uber Prof :P http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment5http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment5Wed, 01 Dec 2010 12:34:56 GMTI don't really like it. I'm sorry, it looks like a really bad flash website to me. The Prof interface is much nicer IMO. http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment4http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment4Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:32:29 GMTIgal, there is a web interface, but we want to move to a more capable platform for the things we want http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment3http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment3Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:29:32 GMTLooking very nice, I do like the Metro UI, is this a web based still or have you implemented it Silverlight/WPF? http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment2http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment2Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:21:55 GMTWow, Metro inspired? I really like it! But wasn't there a web interface? http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment1http://ayende.com/4709/a-first-look-at-the-new-ravendb-ui#comment1Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:04:11 GMT