http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Real good news to have Managed Storage in Raven, since I had the honor of listening you and Rob Ashton speaking about these features at dinner in Bologna (I remember the feature list on the waitress block notes), I'm astonished that you got it implemented in so small amount of time :). Anyway, I think you should need to relax more :) 6 hours of sleep in a 96 is not exactly good for the body :). Alk. http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment19http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment19Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:28:59 GMTBrian, Yes http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment18http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment18Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:18:47 GMTDoes this mean we'll be able to get RavenDB to run in medium trust? That would be fantastic for hosted sites. http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment17http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment17Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:12:51 GMTSweet! http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment16http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment16Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:03:36 GMTYes, we have an plan of doing a Rhino Queues 2.0 (different name, though) with this http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment15http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment15Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:54:17 GMTAny plans to use the managed storage engine for RQ/ESB? Or does this not apply? http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment14http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment14Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:40:29 GMTMaybe, it would need to be ported, but it could be, very easily http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment13http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment13Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:07:25 GMTI take it this means Raven can be used on compact framework devices? http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment12http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment12Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:06:06 GMTHope you didn't wake up only to realiza that this great work was only a dream http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment11http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment11Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:24:22 GMTPatrick, We manage :-) We basically send the file to the second app domain and read from the file. http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment10http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment10Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:31:46 GMTso then how does this change deal with the app domain problem you had? [RavenDB uses Esent under the covers to handle storage. That means that the storage itself doesn’t really care for app domains, since it isn't managed code."](http://ayende.com/Blog/archive/2010/10/04/linq-queries-with-ravendb.aspx) From what I understood of that post (and the little I already knew) it'll be hard to share the managed storage across app domains. http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment9http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment9Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:28:30 GMTAndrew, Probably not. a) it does things that I don't need. b) it uses unmanaged code, and I really want to be able to run things in Silverlight, or on the phone. http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment8http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment8Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:18:26 GMTHendry, MemcacheDB is sitting on BDB. I have had some experience with using BDB, and it wasn't fun. [ayende.com/.../...tions-on-Embedded-databases.aspx](http://ayende.com/Blog/archive/2008/07/11/Observations-on-Embedded-databases.aspx) [ayende.com/.../Bug-magnetAgain.aspx](http://ayende.com/Blog/archive/2008/07/04/Bug-magnetAgain.aspx) [ayende.com/.../In-search-of-an-embedded-DB.aspx](http://ayende.com/Blog/archive/2008/07/03/In-search-of-an-embedded-DB.aspx) There are also licensing issues with using BDB if I want to use it commercially, since it then costs $5,800.00 pr processor. http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment7http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment7Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:08:38 GMTAyende, you may be interested in Membase (its new) from the Memcached team: [http://membase.org/](http://membase.org/) Its NOT the MembaseDB project; its a *simple* system to setup memcache servers that also persist to disk and have replicas. May be ideal for RavenDB? http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment6http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment6Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:03:18 GMTI thought you already knew from your own experience that you can burn yourself without sleep :) http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment5http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment5Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:04:56 GMTOops.. by mongodb i meant memcacheDB.. Or berkeley-db.. or rafter of other similar things http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment4http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment4Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:25:41 GMTAyende, I always wondered any reason you didnt use an existing unmanaged storage that run both on windows and linux, e.g. mongodb. http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment3http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment3Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:16:46 GMTI think what he means is that RavenDB currently uses essent, which is a native windows storage component, thats why raven never had a build for mono. Managed storage means a data-store built from the ground up on top of .net infrastructure. http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment2http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment2Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:11:08 GMTWhat does managed storage mean? You sound excited about it, it must be something good :) http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment1http://ayende.com/4656/a-murder-of-ravens#comment1Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:57:26 GMT