http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Örjan, With the MVC Music Store, I only ported the code, I did NOT change the design in any significant way. I would generally create Query objects for anything that was more complicated than a Load by id, yes. http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment15http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment15Mon, 31 May 2010 08:53:30 GMTThank you Ayende. Learning a lot of best practices form you! Ron http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment14http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment14Thu, 27 May 2010 00:48:11 GMTRon, This is not my app. I just ported it, I didn't re-architect it. Moreover, stuff that work for very small app isn't appropriate for bigger apps http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment13http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment13Wed, 26 May 2010 09:50:46 GMTRon, The controller should orchestrate stuff, not make actual queries. And replicate == re-write - in this instance http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment12http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment12Tue, 25 May 2010 19:05:34 GMTI really don’t like the fact that the controller issues queries like that, but we will let it go for now. What don't you like about it? ...we can’t really replicate this query. The reason is that this query runs over multiple tables which our model says would be in different documents. Replicate as in rewrite for RavenDB? Sorry, I am lost. Ron the MVC Rookie http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment11http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment11Mon, 24 May 2010 16:31:05 GMTThat's the thing isn't it? It isn't sufficient to be a Genius that found the end to all...it takes a lot of sweat for others to notice. It's probably a good thing, as it's honest stuff. http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment10http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment10Sat, 22 May 2010 10:41:06 GMTFrank, Putting it out, making it work, listening to people, writing blog posts (I had about 80 subscribers then), writing articles in places like CodeProject, participating in mailing lists about TDD. That sort of thing. IOW, a lot of really hard work http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment9http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment9Sat, 22 May 2010 10:32:47 GMTAyende, that was somewhat ahead of my time...how can I take a look? Your first posts are in 2005 and judging by the comments left you didn't have that many readers then than now... I am genuinely interested to hear that story :) http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment8http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment8Sat, 22 May 2010 10:26:29 GMTFrank, Take a look at how Rhino Mocks became famous. http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment7http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment7Sat, 22 May 2010 08:55:02 GMTIt is fantastic how you have managed to create a buzz around document DBs and especially RavenDB. I am currently wondering how many good projects may be out there that go unattended and without the focus they may deserve because there isn't a 'famous' name attached to it and simply go under in the webs due to the sheer mass of signals. The situation has grown even worse with less people blogging and more people tweeting, where the signal-to-noise ratio is, at least from my perspective, lower. http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment6http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment6Sat, 22 May 2010 08:37:37 GMTI hope the idiomatic way is more immediately comprehensible and succinct. It sure does seem like a bunch more code for the same functionality at first glance. http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment5http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment5Fri, 21 May 2010 17:09:26 GMTDemis, You pretty much have to, because there is usually more power (but more work) at lower levels. And yes higher levels offer better productivity http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment4http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment4Fri, 21 May 2010 11:13:54 GMTVery Nice, supporting multiple levels of API! And I thought I was the only dev crazy enough to spend the time to do this :) http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment3http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment3Fri, 21 May 2010 11:05:37 GMTDemis, This is using the low level API, the high level API would just use Linq. http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment2http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment2Fri, 21 May 2010 11:03:21 GMTInteresting. Looking forward to seeing your next post on the 'recommended approach' to see if we come up with similar solutions. Is there any reason why you're choosing to go with 'OrderBy("-Quantity")' rather than the more natural 'OrderByDescending("Quantity")' ? http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment1http://ayende.com/4512/porting-mvc-music-store-to-raven-porting-the-homecontroller-the-map-reduce-way#comment1Fri, 21 May 2010 11:01:22 GMT