http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Jeremy, DING DING DING http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment31http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment31Mon, 03 May 2010 22:33:57 GMTUm, you read Release It! ? :-) Based on my reading of Release It! I'd say it's to aid a human in visually scanning it. The human eye is great at scanning columnar text and detecting patterns/differences. I guess this new format would be somewhat easier to parse programmatically, but I'll bet it was for humans more than machines that you changed it. Also, the time format is _much_ easier to consume in the second sample. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment30http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment30Mon, 03 May 2010 22:25:34 GMTTo use the new rectangular-selection tool in VS 2010 ;) ? http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment29http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment29Mon, 03 May 2010 08:12:49 GMTXerxes, Not even close. I have a month where I blogged 150 posts. That is 40 posts per week. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment28http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment28Mon, 03 May 2010 06:49:36 GMTI'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you're trying to break a record for the number of blog-posts in a week? ;P http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment27http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment27Mon, 03 May 2010 06:46:25 GMTYou can sort the results more easily? http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment26http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment26Sun, 02 May 2010 11:06:35 GMTBecause you will only ever have 9999 requests? http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment25http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment25Sat, 01 May 2010 14:49:10 GMTSo that you can use the ALT key to select/cut/copy/paste in blocks? http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment24http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment24Sat, 01 May 2010 12:25:10 GMT20 comments and counting on a different log file format...wow. ayende, I think you should push the question asking even further, there is a vast untapped potential of answers in the depths of the IP-hive to just about any subject. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment23http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment23Sat, 01 May 2010 09:57:59 GMTBecause you like FileHelpers :) http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment22http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment22Sat, 01 May 2010 01:28:12 GMTWhat happens at request 10,000? http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment21http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment21Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:56:15 GMTparsing is much simpler in 2. no need to use regex to break into its parts, just substring it. also the new time values are at a realistically useful degree of precision http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment20http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment20Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:03:25 GMTI'm going to go with the added readability and perhaps replay-ability. This data may end up finding its way as an input into a load tester so you can benchmark captured 'normal traffic'? http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment19http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment19Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:24:32 GMTto see the response time easier? and see which values are max? http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment18http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment18Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:23:30 GMTIt is easier to read/parse. But more importantly it displays HTTP codes so you can see what is being cached by the server. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment17http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment17Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:27:03 GMTto use log parser? http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment16http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment16Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:44:46 GMTIsn't 4-character padding for request number a little bit too small? It seems that after 10000 requests your log won't be pretty anymore in terms of both appearance and ease of parsing. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment15http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment15Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:36:38 GMTBecause despite the fact computers are involved in what we do there are humans on the other end of monitors. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment14http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment14Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:28:20 GMT1. Because having the path information earlier in the string makes the rest of the data fall outside easily scanned columns. Putting the path at the end allows for an arbitrarily long path that still presents information nicely. 2. Having the milliseconds right justified does the same thing for that column. A large time value will still preserve the column spacing. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment13http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment13Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:14:58 GMTInstead of being "for excel", I would say it's "to get rid of Excel" (or other automated tools): the format is directly human-readable and "higlights" extreme values, so you don't have to paste the log into Excel and do a "text to columns" http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment12http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment12Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:13:59 GMTBecause you want your formatting to break after 1000 requests or if any request takes more than 100 seconds? :) http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment11http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment11Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:03:59 GMTYou like tabs and dashes? just kidding; its clearly nicer. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment10http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment10Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:21:27 GMTYou split the hash and the number, so you can reorder the list? All the other changes just look visual :) http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment9http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment9Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:07:22 GMTprobably so you can open straight into excel. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment8http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment8Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:55:04 GMTYou can also tell the response code. Nice! http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment7http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment7Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:52:24 GMTThey are both easily parsable, so the best answer is readability. The 2nd one is MUCH easier to read than the first. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment6http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment6Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:40:30 GMTTime is human readable in the second format; Plus you've added the http response code, wich is very important. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment5http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment5Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:39:51 GMTEasier to slam into a tool, but more importantly, the time per call is so much easier to see in the second format making it much easier to eyeball it an say "Wait...that's not right". Having the HTTP Response Codes also helps this too. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment4http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment4Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:35:48 GMTFor excel and rapid looks. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment3http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment3Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:27:02 GMTMuch easier to parse while reading, yet still easy to parse using automated tools. http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment2http://ayende.com/4478/those-small-touches#comment2Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:26:53 GMT