http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Out of curiosity, where you logged into Google at the time of the search. Google optimizes search results based on personal information if you are logged in. If you were logged in, then I think it is not so straightforward a comparison. I discovered this when a coworker and I kept getting different search results for the same search term. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment42http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment42Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:22:35 GMTAs many said already switch it to US country and bing it again... The results of "US Bing" are equally valid IMO as Google ones Go check it out for yourself [www.bing.com/search?q=TwitterDeck&form=QBLH&qs=n](http://www.bing.com/search?q=TwitterDeck&form=QBLH&qs=n)http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment41http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment41Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:06:09 GMT"Big misconception about bing is that this is something that Microsoft came up with, but it's not, they bought a company that had this tech and they renamed it and branded it to Bing." whoooh, i totally thought that microsoft that came up with this 'bing'..what company actually that had this tech b4 microsoft bought it?any ideas?..looking it somewhere but could'nt find it.. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment40http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment40Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:40:05 GMTNext time you want to compare google vs bing, just use [http://www.bing-vs-google.com/](http://www.bing-vs-google.com/)http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment39http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment39Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:56:01 GMTSolution: don't use Twitter http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment38http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment38Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:35:34 GMTI haven't found google to be any better than bing at all. I have found different results, but have never identified a search that worked better on google. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment37http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment37Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:37:08 GMTChange of Language/Locale doesn't help me. What helps is a change of Country/Region in Bing (in the upper right corner). http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment36http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment36Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:13:51 GMTif you've got time to waist on twitter, you might as well waste it using incabable search engines ;-) that said, I've always had bing in US mode, and it works just fine. no idea why it doesn't work for you. mind to send a stack trace? http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment35http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment35Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:43:28 GMTSame thing as above.. French version of Bing is only Live Search with Bing visuals. I switched to en-US and I have now the same level of results than google. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment34http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment34Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:07:54 GMTWhat I can't work out is why anybody has tried Bing yet. I'll wait for version 3 and in the meanwhile I've got work to do and/or stuff to google. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment33http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment33Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:40:02 GMTBing got improved by a lot comparing to MSN search, but Google still has no rivals in the mean of quality. Unfortunelly. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment32http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment32Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:40:14 GMT@Ayende: Use this: [http://www.bing.com/?mkt=en-US](http://www.bing.com/?mkt=en-US) As someone said above, it seems to be a completely different system... http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment31http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment31Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:16:38 GMTHenning, I just did, and re-run the search, it still giving me the same results set http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment30http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment30Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:06:19 GMTSet your language/locale in Bing to United States-English. It's a completely different world. Why they haven't rolled out that version of the engine to the rest of the world completely beats me. The "international" Bing is literally the old Live Search with new branding. The US version is a completely different beast altogether. twitterdeck on the US version brings up a comparable result to your Google results. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment29http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment29Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:03:07 GMTThe way I see it is Bing is more of a consumer search engine; where as Google is a content search engine. I pretty much got this feeling based on all the marketing videos that I watched on Bing before it went live, all of the marketing revolved around how easy it was to eventually buy something you were searching for. My 0.02 http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment28http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment28Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:08:02 GMTBing works great for searching MSDN content - for general searching I still use google. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment27http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment27Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:55:03 GMTI was reviewing "The Search" book about 4 years ago, which tells the Google story. The guys at google were explaining their ultimate goal of reading the minds of the user, so that they can show most relevant results. Obviously that's impossible, but interesting how search technology keeps advancing to cope with more and more variables other than simply what was typed in a search box. [www.amazon.com/.../1591840880](http://www.amazon.com/Search-Rewrote-Business-Transformed-Culture/dp/1591840880) http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment26http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment26Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:21:22 GMTRemember the file search doggy from Windows Explorer? You had to tell the bastard everything: is it a document, a movie or a song? How long ago have you seen it? Did you modify it? In what directory should it be? Having seen that I'm shocked Bing is actually finding anything without asking you seventy three yes-or-no questions. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment25http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment25Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:18:08 GMTI agree with Mike. Bing isn't quite that bad. They just completely ignored the non-US market and for all those outside the US it's a complete joke while in the US it's totally awesome. But still.. Google has one major point right now: They know my trends and my Google Search wiki entries, so they sort my searchresults differently than everyone elses.. greetings Daniel http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment24http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment24Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:07:18 GMTI've had the same problem with various terms event when spelled right. Basically, I typically find what I want on the first page if not the first 3 hits using google. I haven't gotten that sort of accuracy out of bing with an consistency, which is why google is once again my default search engine as of yesterday. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment23http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment23Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:05:02 GMTGoogle is better not necessarily a software issue, it is a crowd-sourcing issue. Any search engine can index text and match on keywords, but it requires crowdsourcing and human training to "teach" the search engine how to find the best result. Inspect the source code on a google search page, you will see that they monitor what you click, and try to keep track of which link was your "final choice" Google has more traffic, therefore they have better crowdsource power, therefore they have better results http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment22http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment22Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:48:44 GMTGoogle gets better results because everybody uses it. It's a giant neural net: the more people training it the smarter and more accurate it gets. That said, the results are almost always on par with each other. The difference is in the most obscure stuff. And the reason why Google finds those queries is because there is a higher probability that somebody has searched for it before you on Google than there is on Bing. That's why scale matters to MSFT. BTW, as other's have pointed out, if you search for "TweetDeck" on Bing, you'll find what you're looking for. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment21http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment21Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:46:26 GMTLOL comments saying he spelled it incorrectly are missing the point, the point is google was able to tell what he wanted and give results... I'm sure bing would show TweetDeck as #1 if he actually put in "tweetdeck", but he didn't. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment20http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment20Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:22:54 GMTyou posted a while ago, that you are looking for a new machine. which one did you get? http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment19http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment19Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:50:03 GMTyes google is better, which begs the question why you or anyone would use Bing as their default? Now I know you better Oren in that you are not a Microsoft fanboy, but everyone else I know that switched for a while this seems to have been the reason. Big misconception about bing is that this is something that Microsoft came up with, but it's not, they bought a company that had this tech and they renamed it and branded it to Bing. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment18http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment18Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:39:29 GMTI think we are all missing the important thing here: If this was a game show and the question was about twitter clients, Oren would have gotten a nasty buzzing sound and I WOULD HAVE WON THE CAR!!! http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment17http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment17Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:35:46 GMTI didn't think about the market support. That's a great point by Mike. I'd guess that each lang/region has its own synonym lists. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment16http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment16Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:28:24 GMTI just tried it myself and there's a huge difference if I switch to UK/US or my local Estonian version of Bing. The US version is way better than Google's results in that screenshot. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment15http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment15Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:27:47 GMTThey just didn't have the synonym twitter => tweet set up. They must have fixed it based on your post because it works now. I'm not sure how it was before but a search for tweet now has twitter as the first result. Google is great, but they have a decade head start on bing. I think that bing may actually be good enough to bridge the gap, but it's going to take time. Overall I've had decent results with bing. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment14http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment14Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:25:16 GMT2Bertrand Le Roy this because you are sully supported maket, probably in US or UK. http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment13http://ayende.com/4181/google-vs-bing#comment13Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:25:06 GMT