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Sidar Ok commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:09:42 GMT

In Belgium and Turkey, Iran was the top news as well.

Andrew commented on Politics: Iran

Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:24:34 GMT

Bunter, The first part of your comments are a bit confusing, the "who starts and ends everything and seems to be the world center" part especially. The Brits have been meddling in that region a lot longer than the US

Bunter commented on Politics: Iran

Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:08:14 GMT

It's good to discuss how much press something gets while people are killed. Isn't it. And always there is this two letter thing called the "US" who starts and ends everything and seems to be the world center. But to original post, I think the view is rather biased, maybe oversaturated patriotism is at works here. At first, different from Gaza, it is internal affairs of Iran and secondly, it gets A LOT of attention, at least all over Europe. And nobody seems to be singing praising gospel to current regime of Iran.

Andrew commented on Politics: Iran

Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:18:31 GMT

What's interesting in the US is that, while the Iranian situation is getting a lot of press, it's also turning into an opportunity for House Republicans to completely slam Obama. Apparently he's not doing enough to represent Democracy in the region...because it worked out oh so well when the last guy tried to do anything about it.

Kamran commented on Politics: Iran

Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:27:03 GMT

Its more an internal power struggle than a democratic movement with Mousavi and Ahmadinejad being the public faces of the Rafsanjani and Khameini factions.

Waheed Sayed commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:04:06 GMT

@Suedeuno It seems one of us could not express clearly in English! I never made a relation between worshipping stones and any monotheistic religion. I hope that is clear. I admitted that Christianity is built on Love and Peace because I know enough about it, from its followers friends of mine. But true I didn't read the bible. I don't believe that makes me talking about something I don't know. Also, Quran mentioned many wonderful things about Jesus, Moses, Joseph, Jacob, Zechariah, and many others. So, I still believe that I know enough. I'd like to make the image clearer, I do by myself first what I ask ppl to do. So, I don't judge Christianity by its followers who committed most of the wars and occupations in the new era and support many unjustified cases and were very biased against many nations. But sure I belame them for current international situations everywhere. I hope one day everyone drops the preset and inhereted opinions that has been corrupted by media for many decades for the benefit of some and to start thinking FREELY and LOGICALLY about what is the truth.

Suedeuno commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:19:30 GMT

Waheed, this tells me you've never read the Bible for if you had you would have known that man cannot possibly invent fulfilled prophecies that were written hundreds to thousands of years earlier. Do you go in public and profess to know a technology that you have never read? Worshipping stones? I think you're getting Christians and pagans confused my friend. One man-created religion doesn't mean they're all man-created. Please do some studying before you go out publicly defame something you obviously don't know much about.

Waheed Sayed commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:45:20 GMT

@ Ali I was going to send u my email to continue this chat without filling Ayende's blog with issues he may not much care about. But when I reached your the last statement I got shoked & dropped the idea. RELIGION is the worst thing human race INVENTED?!!! You know that even idiots who worship stones don't think that religions are something to be invented! Anyway, you are free but that means that you'll be questioned by who created you & believe or not there is ONE and Almighty One created you. The greatest mistake of your government that it spoiled the image of Islam and made many ppl think that the problem is in Islam not in ppl who claim being Muslims. About Iran-Iraq war in 80s, I remember I believed that It is completely wrong although I was very young and didn't even started using the Internet to express my opinions. But didn't democrate USA helped on that? check history & benefits ;) Does that make Christianity which is built on Peacefulness and love a bad INVENTED RELIGION !!!!! I must belame ur gov for ur corrupted ideas. I think nothing to more discuss here and sorry If that bothered anyone. I'm out now. Regards

Some Uzbek commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:42:05 GMT

Hm... Seems lots of discussion about Iran problem... . But never saw this kind of discussion about Andijan massacre (Uzbekistan, [en.wikipedia.org/.../May_2005_unrest_in_Uzbekistan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2005_unrest_in_Uzbekistan)). Seems Uzbek people are 3rd class (if not lower) :))). Why? - Because cotton is much cheaper than oil? :)))

Ivan commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:09:13 GMT

What the hypocrisy… Matter as usually in oil and nuclear weapon. Is this not obvious? But everyone speaks about the humaneness, freedom and democracy. I already heard this 100 times when Iraq was bombed. You (through your leaders) simply fear, that nuclear weapon will appear in Iran. If in North Korea protests begin - they will be supported by the entire world under the mask of humaneness. If you actually want to show your humaneness you will focus attention on African countries, they have a lot of problems. Somewhere average life expectancy of < 32 years. And much more people die. [upload.wikimedia.org/.../...CIA_World_Factbook.png](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Life_Expectancy_2008_Estimates_CIA_World_Factbook.png)

Ali commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:42:21 GMT

@Waheed All Iranians want, is their votes being counted. If it wasn't rigged, there weren't those many angry people in the streets being shot at and still chanting "where is my vote". this is not a matter of "brothers solving an internal issue" this is a matter of robbery in broad daylight. this is a matter of democracy and freedom. Freedom and democracy will not be given to us, that's why we are DEMANDING it, and are paying the price with BLOOD. you seem to be Moslem, isn't it your book that says if two groups of Moslems kill each other, they both go to hell? Iran was invaded by Iraq for 10 years and one million people died from both sides, where was the "solve it between the brothers" attitude then? where will my nation be with such a government which is pushing us back to the dark ages? a government which is not even following its own constitution? for me my iPhone is important, for my sister, having the wind in her hair was a dream for years. isn't your Quran that says "there is no force in religion"? why are they forcing us to be good Moslems? I'm 40 and I haven't danced in my life, I never had a chance to. My childhood was thorn between finding out where I can find tomato paste and learning how to walk in the streets so that I don't get beaten up by good Moslems. With all due respect for your belief, I think religion is the worst thing human race invented.

Mikael Henriksson commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:11:11 GMT

Hey, I totally agree! I have shown my support to the democratic process. Wish I could do more though

Waheed Sayed commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:09:40 GMT

@Ali, You don't need the world governments. You need ur borthers and youself to sit down and figure out your way peacefully. Otherwise your enemies will be the winner. I hope you are not searching for Freedom and Democracy that Israel gave to Palestine OR what Americans gave to Iraq, Afghanistan and more to come. I hope you know and appreciate that your history, your nation, your religion and your culture is more valiable than jail breaking ur iPhone and playing WOW. But I don't expect that u got that at all otherwise you won't be calling for Freedom and Democracy HERE, on our dear Israeli friend post, who wasn't thinking of you at all. He was thinking how poor his ppl, Media always bothers them while killing thier neighbors they don't like .. What a democrat :)

Krzysztof Kozmic commented on Politics: Iran

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:27:21 GMT

Ali, The media are not depicting an evil nation. The media are depicting evil _leaders_ of the nation. I wish you all the best on your quest for free (libre) democratic Iran my friends.

Ali commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:55:07 GMT

As an Iranian geek, I thank you my friend. thanks for bringing this up. people of the world: we are just like you! we love watching star wars, we love jail breaking our iPhones, we love to play WOW with our friends. the media depicts an evil nation. we are just being held hostage by a brutal regime who wants to wipe the maps, it is not us. please understand us, please raise your voices to your governments to do something about this situation. up until now, the most other countries have done, was to put us under sanction and that my friends puts ordinary people under pressure not the well off government bastards. we need your help, just amplify our vice: WE WANT FREEDOM, WE WANT DEMOCRACY

Chris commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:03:32 GMT

One word.... Perspective

João P. Bragança commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:26:35 GMT

I don't mind helping other people as long as *I* get something out of it... which is something our leaders in Washington seem to have lost sight of. A republic should represent both powerful oligarchs AND the people. Hence Senatus Populusque Romanus (SPQR). However it seems as if the interests of the two groups no longer coincide.

John Byrnes commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:25:39 GMT

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Observer commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:49:30 GMT

Sheesh Ayende. What sad sack of passive aggressive nonsense. Stick to tech.

Someone Else commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:31:27 GMT

Here in Germany there is a lot of media response about what's currently going on in Iran. Interestingly, there is a slight but notable resemblance between the tide of events after Iran's election and the protests that lead to the Fall of the Berlin Wall 20 years ago. They show the latter in TV currently, too, due to the 20th anniversary happening this year.

Rafal commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:18:02 GMT

@Joao Completely agree with you! I didn't want to write anything in this topic at first, but have to support your point of view! There's nothing worse than "help" from imperialist governments, and somehow they are always ready to "help" troubled nations take care of their goods. Especially if these goods are oil-related :)

NicoGranelli commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:12:30 GMT

I agree with you

Khamza Davlatzade commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:41:47 GMT

Thanks Ayende, and other people for the understanding and support!

João P. Bragança commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:32:41 GMT

Erik, it's not for lack of trying. Plenty of so called human rights orgs have been whining about the Sri Lankan offensive. The difference is in the leverage... they don't buy their weapons from western governments like Israel does, but rather China. Since the Chinese are merely concerned with their national interest, they aren't about to start exerting pressure on the Sri Lankans. We in the west on the other hand have completely lost our minds. Every minor conflict on the other side of the planet is a human rights disaster. Any wiff of instability is met with pols stating that 'something must be done' (nevermind how 'something' should be paid for). To paraphrase Reagan: The eight most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from Washington and I'm here to help." The best thing we can do for Israel (and the Iranian protesters) is to stay the hell out of their way and let them do what they need to do.

configurator commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:19:55 GMT

Oren, This is the first I've heard of the Bad Things going on in Iran. Here in France, the "mumble" hasn't reached me.

Erik commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:45:05 GMT

I think the situation in Gaza & Iran is somewhat different. Maybe a better comparison could be made with the recent Sri Lanka offensive where something like 7000 civilian deaths have been reported by UN, with scant attention from the western media. In comparison with the passionate and biased reporting from Gaza, the news from Sri Lanka were presented in a objective, matter-of fact tone (antother war in a third world country, who cares?). To me it's obvious that the western media has double standards towards Israel.

Gunnar Liljas commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:39:03 GMT

Alexis wrote: "in the case of Israel, there are very loud both pro- and anti-Israeli voices in the West. But both critics and supporters of Israel are, universally, critics of the Iranian regime. So there hasn't been very vigorous debate: but there has been a constant drumbeat of sympathy for the Iranian protesters." Well said. I think that's the real difference.

The Other Steve commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:17:00 GMT

Always the victim.... bleah

Peter Morris commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:00:30 GMT

"As far as the world is concerned, it looks like the Iranians are second class people." Actually I see it as the opposite. The press I always see about Israel is mostly about disproportionate retaliation, and the Palestinians are usually portrayed as the innocent party. So I see it as "As far as the world (press) is concerned, it looks like the Israelies are condemned more than others"

Peter Morris commented on Politics: Iran

Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:09:06 GMT

@Suedeuno Because riots in streets are not orchestrated by the Iranian government. If they send out their army and start killing protesters all over the place I am pretty sure they will see plenty of negative press coverage.