﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"><channel><title>Ayende @ Rahien</title><link>http://ayende.com</link><description>Ayende @ Rahien</description><copyright>Copyright (C) Ayende Rahien  2004 - 2021 (c) 2026</copyright><ttl>60</ttl><item><title>Vincent commented on There is no database</title><description>Does that also mean not stored procs and no triggers? 
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment10</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment10</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:29:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Petar Repac commented on There is no database</title><description>There is no silver bullet and I think ORM is not also.
  
It could cover 99% of use cases but what you do with 1% left ? Call DBA to help ? Or quit ignoring that there is an RDBMS and solve the problem there if it is the best/cheapest way to go ?
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment9</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment9</guid><pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:42:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Scott White commented on There is no database</title><description>ORM Euphoria?  I'd like to think I'm about there too.  I tend to talk more in terms of objects, interaction and process flows.
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment8</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment8</guid><pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:13:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Chris Canal commented on There is no database</title><description>I gave an NHibernate talk at my local user group on Tuesday and this is something I really tried to get across, there where a few confused looks and few smirks, but it went over better than I thought :)
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment7</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment7</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:24:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Damian Hickey commented on There is no database</title><description>I'd probably draw it like this:
  
  
[img258.imageshack.us/img258/1976/nodbiy3.png](http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1976/nodbiy3.png)  
  
I jest!  :)
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment6</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment6</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:38:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Tobin Harris commented on There is no database</title><description>I'm probably a few years behind you there!
  
  
But I find that I open SQL Studio about once every two weeks, rather than every time I open Visual Studio. I still know there's a persistent storage medium there, but most of the time I no longer really care if it's a RDBMS, an XML file store, a service layer, or whatever. 
  
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment5</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment5</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:46:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Carl commented on There is no database</title><description>database
  
–noun
  
1.	a comprehensive collection of related data organized for convenient access, generally in a computer.
  
  
If you store data in it then it is a database.
  
  
I would say that there is a database but there is no Database or DBMS... possibly...
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment4</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment4</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:45:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Petar Repac commented on There is no database</title><description>Oren, are you saying that there is no "the most expensive part of an enterprise application" ?
  
The part that holds The Data. It seems like like ignorance.
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment3</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:39:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Anon commented on There is no database</title><description>All databases are [probably] persistent storage. All persistent storage is not database. Using the term database instantly recognizes the fact[?] that all databases use some form of SQL; where as persistent storage has no such recognition.
  
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment2</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment2</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:08:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Andy Knight commented on There is no database</title><description>"Instead only try to realize the truth: There is no spoon" - lol
</description><link>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment1</link><guid>http://ayende.com/3808/there-is-no-database#comment1</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:13:24 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>