http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660@Demis Yes we did this. One day we also noticed that the mq failed. But I agree that it is one of the most simple and robust way to notify processes. http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment5http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment5Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:24:27 GMTDebugging is much more useful in single threaded scenarios because you save the time of writing all the logging messages. Unfortunately it is hopeless in a multi threaded scenario and you have to put in all the debug messages but that at least delays it until it is really needed. http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment4http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment4Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:42:47 GMTIf I want system-wide logging I get my services to publish messages to a mq topic, that way I can subscribe to all live service topics at any time with a single application and get a complete overview of which messages were sent and in what order. http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment3http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment3Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:12:07 GMTIf I want system-wide logging I get my services to publish messages to a 'topic', that way I can subscribe to all 'live' service topics at any time with a single application and get a complete overview of which messages were sent and in what order. http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment2http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment2Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:10:55 GMT"I find it quite amusing that we are basically going back to reading log files to figure out what is going on with our applications." And all the people I've worked with recently who developed in Perl and 'just' wrote to the console are thinking "We'd tell you we told you so, but we are too busy getting work done...and trying to remember what our Perl code does." Looking forward to your forthcoming posts on logs and logging. http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment1http://ayende.com/3669/messaging-concepts-auditability-tracebility#comment1Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:57:12 GMT