http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Ayende, The Time to Login Screen thing was about bringing in new developers on an existing already-running project. It's purpose is to gauge how well your source control, build automation, code organization, etc are all set up. How easy will it be for a new dev to step into the project and/or a maintenance dev in the future to dust off the old code and start being productive. Anyhow, this is a good post and worthy of further discussion. This concept you talk about is what killed Jeremy and me at our last job because our boss didn't have the patience or foresight to see the value being created (even if it wasn't necessarily all on the screen just yet). The proof in the pudding was when LOTS of things started appearing on the screen FAST and they WORKED well, but by then his opinion had already formed and it was too late. http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment5http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment5Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:48:13 GMTUm, I would disagree. It is more the fine details that escape me, than the big picture. http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment4http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment4Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:20:49 GMTIf you have forgotten some things then it means MonoRail has some "not natural and fluent" features. For others framework this has been my impression. http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment3http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment3Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:37:30 GMTI hear ya. On day 11 of the first sprint of a new project and the first drop to QA is on Monday. Spent the better part of the 11 days working on architecture, tweaking our framework, getting approaches to how we're going to flow through the layers designed, UI starts, login screens. Hopefully next sprint will be a productive one, I don't see a lot of progress from this one. http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment2http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment2Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:43:06 GMTI totally agree. I've also found in the past couple years that I enjoy maintenance coding more than new projects. It's kind of fun to make big changes to a codebase while still having people use the application. http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment1http://ayende.com/3364/new-project-blues#comment1Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:13:35 GMT