http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Chris, Can you give more information about it? I think that partial domain models covers that, no? http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment17http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment17Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:58:11 GMTHow about portioning out a single, contiguous domain into small pieces of cross-team ownership? Basically I'm thinking about using inheritance to provide extensibility to higher-level teams across an enterprise-like organization. http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment16http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment16Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:49:54 GMTOran, http://www.ayende.com/Blog/archive/2007/03/09/Querying-is-a-business-concern.aspx And: http://www.ayende.com/Blog/archive/2007/03/12/Querying-Is-A-Business-Concern-Sample.aspx As for testing, in memory DB works very well there. http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment15http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment15Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:48:46 GMTI'm in favor of Queries as Business Logic, but the main stumbling block for me is unit testing them. Do you have pointers to further information on this topic? http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment14http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment14Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:12:50 GMTIn addition to Distributed Caching, I'd like to hear a decent discussion of plain old non-distributed caching of entities, collections, queries, etc, and things like the tradeoff between (a) a single query with lots of outer joins and (b) a simple query that relies on caching but may require several subsequent queries depending on cache misses. It seems to me that many people are unaware of the caching capabilities of ORMs and how to best utilize / optimize them. For my part, I'm currently struggling to decide what to cache and when, and so far I haven't seen a good discussion of it. If you're going to discuss Lucene, many people are going to wonder why they should use it instead of the built-in full-text search in their DB. http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment13http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment13Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:58:09 GMTGreat. Sessions have been posted. Means we'll meet there! http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment12http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment12Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:25:13 GMTDevTeach Toronto, May http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment11http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment11Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:34:46 GMTAyende, Any idea when and where the talk will be given? http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment10http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment10Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:15:45 GMTJon, Those are interesting topics, but I don't think that they relate to the subject of the talk http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment9http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment9Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:20:20 GMTIt means integration with Lucene.NET, so you can run google-style queries against the domain model. Nothing with Google at all, I am afraid. http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment8http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment8Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:14:59 GMT+1 to Steve's suggestion. One of the biggest criticisms against ORM is usually "stored procs are faster". It would be good to at least tackle that briefly, even if there isn't time for a complete debunking :) It would also be good to cover issues which ORM tends to raise - where do you tend to have problems? Jon http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment7http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment7Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:48:05 GMTWhat does "Googlizing the Domain Model" mean. Never heard that verb before though it obviously means using Google in a some way. But with which intention? Searching best practices according to the domain? Or to the principles behind the modeling with regard to the domain? http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment6http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment6Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:45:59 GMTI'd like to here under high loads how dynamic queries are better than stored procs It's a good selling point on why to use an ORM - is it better, worse, why, etc... http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment5http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment5Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:09:20 GMT > I am going to give a talk Where and when? http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment4http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment4Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:01:35 GMTBenedikt, I am thinking about doing one, yes. "customer specific domain models" is what I call adaptive domain models. http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment3http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment3Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:09:13 GMTYou should make a nice workshop with all these topics - not just an one hour talk :-) what I would be particularily interested in are "customer specific domain models" as needed in Software as a Service. http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment2http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment2Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:02:03 GMTSounds great, can't wait. http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment1http://ayende.com/3122/orm-2#comment1Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:39:59 GMT