http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660This is something that always frustrates me; when I read a blog post that speaks more about design "fashion" than fact. If you dont have tangible examples to back up the point you are trying to make, then your argument is weak. Time will tell if asp.net mvc is the same thing as monorail, or just the latest "fashion" of the exact same concept with no meaningful differences http://ayende.com/2947/with-the-blinders-off#comment4http://ayende.com/2947/with-the-blinders-off#comment4Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:53:44 GMTGreat post. I love this part: "No, demo applications are not good enough. You need a real project or two to get things rolling, you need to bang your head against a technology. You need to code in anger and swear eternal vengeance against the authors' ancestors nine generations backs and three forward." http://ayende.com/2947/with-the-blinders-off#comment3http://ayende.com/2947/with-the-blinders-off#comment3Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:43:31 GMTScott, let me put it another way, then. You object to mixing technological and commercial concerns, because they often bias as a result. Also, perhaps commercial is not the word? Sponsored? Ads? Paid off? http://ayende.com/2947/with-the-blinders-off#comment2http://ayende.com/2947/with-the-blinders-off#comment2Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:12:32 GMTDude! I'm VERY commercial. I just believe that getting to commercial success via nefarious means inevitably leads to a lessor success - and I mean that from a money perspective, not just a personal, moral perspective. Smart, sustainable business is good business. When a commercial organization has to resort to trickery and manipulation, it's an indication that they're operating outside of their optimal curve. http://ayende.com/2947/with-the-blinders-off#comment1http://ayende.com/2947/with-the-blinders-off#comment1Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:03:38 GMT