http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Oh well its difficult to say.... I don't classify this as a 100% horror. I could be classified in that group a while ago, but then working more with OSS I kinda understand how I should position myself (if you feel that is bad, fix it. :) ) The problem is that would be quite an usual practice when people first use OSS. So well, lets just let them calm down and think themselve, they might get the idea sooner or later after they realize MS treat them even worse than OSS community, given that we pay so much for MS. (I shout about Vista on the poor user interface, but so far no one response from windowshelp.microsoft.com) And on the other hand, I can also feel some of the people in OSS indeed does not like to hear others' opinion on things too (I have been critize some of the so called ORM implementation for example) So we can't always say its the people who shouts loud is where the fault comes from. http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment8http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment8Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:24:27 GMT@Rob And they usually respond "Sorry, but I don't say hi to the mirror." http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment7http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment7Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:49:08 GMTRob, Oh, I know that one. LOL http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment6http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment6Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:35:21 GMTBest Practice Police (and Pedantic #$%#heads) are my favorite: "If this were a REAL DAL engine, you'd X, then Y, and then X using Best Practices and of course all the stuff that goes along with it that you should know about but I won't list here because it's beneath me. People who use your tool are poor, uninformed idiots who can't code for themselves" I usually ask them if they can say hi to God for me on their way out... http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment5http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment5Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:33:51 GMTI totally agree with Sean. OSS contribs don't owe me anything...if anything, I feel like I owe Oren for Rhino.Mocks. But yeah, that's the point of OSS...if you find something you would have done differently then change it yourself-that's why we gave you the source code. Even better, If you've found a flaw and it bothers you that much then fix it and submit as a patch so the rest of us can benefit from it. Then you can send us all emails telling us how much we owe you for the patch :) By the way, the "you" here refers to the generalized ungrateful OSS user...not any "you" in particular http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment4http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment4Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:37:37 GMTI use your stuff Oren and I owe you BIG time! My only worst story with OSS is that if I spent 3 weeks trying to implement something you blogged about, you'd have it done in a few hours and thereby greatly diminishing my feeling of accomplishment, but I suppose I can live with that ;-) http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment3http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment3Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:41:22 GMT@Phil : rofl thats funny stuff Although I don't have a horror story I am appauled that you guys actually get emails like that. I would be ashamed if I e-mailed an open source contributor and told them to fix XYZ by some date. The biggest benefit is that it is OPEN SOURCE. and that means if all else fails, fix it yourself! I count my blessings every day for the open source tools that I have. I could not imagine coding without them. Thank you Phil, Oren and everyone else that develops open source tools that are so useful to me everyday. If I ever send you an e-mail like you stated above, I give you permission to shoot me until I have some sense. http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment2http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment2Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:37:55 GMTHa! Too many to count. > "If you don't add this feature (three months development and human > sacrifice may be involved) the I am never using your stuff again, and > neither will my company." OH NO! You and your company will never use my stuff again! The HORROR! How will I feed my family!? This will reduce my income by *cue sound of tapping on a calculator* oh. Zero dollars. Rob Conery has some good stories. http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment1http://ayende.com/2922/the-other-side-of-open-source#comment1Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:22:08 GMT