http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660HAHAHAHA Paul you are great! I like this one. Yep, they still write apps the way they do it in Access..... Nightmare. And that is especially true on the Application team, the more this software geared towards business solution, the worse the quality is. I guess there aren't some really serious complaint about Visual Studio/ .NET Framework, but I am sure there are a lot to complain about CRM, Great Plains (read: Great Pains), Axapta... No, I don't like MS business software, not even a bit. http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment5http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment5Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:27:51 GMTI spent a bit of time building on CRM and developed a theory: When Access 97 and FoxPro were deprecated, the teams had nowhere to go, and were absorbed into the Dynamics team. One thing led to another, and then one day, one of the PM's accidentally let them write code. Thus MS CRM, with its "referrential integrity and error handling is for nerds" attitude, was born. http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment4http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment4Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:15:45 GMTThis is a waste of your talents, time to join a new team? I remember the previous post about the value of your time so one finger points to management for assigning such a task and the other goes to MS for releasing such a product. http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment3http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment3Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:16:07 GMTI second Scott Singleton. Microsoft CRM is so awful we wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, no matter what kind of money a client would be willing to pay. Fortunately, there is no iterest in Microsoft CRM on the part of our clients. I suspect CRM is the worst selling Microsoft product. That's why Microsoft is not motivated to fix it. http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment2http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment2Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:05:16 GMTCRM is one of the most frustrating and un-intiutive bits of software released. And no bothering calling in and burning a ticket on it with MS -- you can rewrite the suite in the time it takes them to figure out CRM issues. http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment1http://ayende.com/2921/helplessness#comment1Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:24:40 GMT