http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Nels, Thanks for follow up on that. I'll update the post accordingly. http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment5http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment5Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:45:07 GMTWe contacted JBoss to pay them to fix some NHibernate issues in September and they said they could do it. We said we'd get back to them as soon as our pending product release went out. Well, we got back to them this week, and they said "So sorry, but we don't support NHibernate" !!! I emailed Christian Bauer at JBoss about it and he suggested soliciting on the Nhibernate development mailing list. So, it looks like commercial NHibernate support does not exist ... http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment4http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment4Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:59:54 GMTThis is a common thing in enterprises (at least in North America, not sure if the same is true in your neck of the woods). Corporations need a name behind something before they'll okey-dokey it for general use. We're using CruiseControl.NET but may need to opt for the CC Enterprise in order to have someone on the other end of the phone help troubleshoot setups or provide general support. Realistically it's cheaper for my company to pay someone else than it is to pay me to support this stuff. Same is true for Subversion as we're looking at CollabNet to provide Enterprise support in order to move away from something like Team Foundation where the support is there (just a $250 phone call away to PSS). It's certainly a way to get Corporate America (or Canada in my case) buy into these "crazy open source tools" http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment3http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment3Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:28:01 GMTIt will be good to get complete documentation, sample code, etc... I think that is what I'm seeing coming out of Redmond for the MS MVC. Granted, I doubt it will be able to move as quickly as Monorail. Although sometimes that 'quickness' results in no documentation, since it's 'open source go dig into the code to know how it works' mentality (which is fine, because... well it's free right?) What will be most interesting is how they handle AJAX. I assume it will be through their own lacking AJAX libraries (which I hope improves to catch up to other better libraries) http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment2http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment2Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:22:09 GMTUnfortunately, at large corporations (such as the one I'm working at), these decisions are made quite a ways up the chain. For example, we're getting push back to use Team Build instead of a CruiseControl server that has been working very fine, and much better than other teams using Team Build. For some reason, those up the chain get warm fuzzies from other large corporations. http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment1http://ayende.com/2874/commercial-support-for-castle-windsor-castle-monorail-nhibernate-etc#comment1Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:34:38 GMT