http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Thanks for this posting! I'm on a TAP program, and after logging 5 bugs and getting them all closed (mostly not reproducible) I thought it was just me. http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment10http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment10Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:19:04 GMTYeah connect is awful, I've logged loads of suggestions/bugs and had very little success. http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment9http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment9Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:37:22 GMT[Frans Bouma] > bugs reported after RTM are simply ignored and handled by a bunch of morons. I've just happend to stumble upon Sara Ford's weblog. This dudess is, in her own words, Software Design Engineer in Test (SDET) on the Visual Studio. She writes in a blog entry her team has "3 Program Managers, 2 Developers and 1 Tester." Three program managers!!! Jeez, what do they do? Is this indicative of the quality of the product and the rate of fixing bugs? http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment8http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment8Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:51:43 GMT@Phil, I don't really care if they have opened a new bug, if I can't see progress, it is meaningless. Also, I want to see results in a less than 2 years timeframe. http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment7http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment7Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:09:52 GMTSigh... 1 - Connect submissions are often closed because they've opened an internal bug. ***Now, I agree, the FEEDBACK from Microsoft leaves something to be desired. But they do listen. 2 - To Frans: Firefox still works in the forums -- I use it as my only browser. Clear your cache and cookies to get in. This SP4 *should've* fixed numerous Passport issues preventing login. http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment6http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment6Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:22:19 GMTAnother way to kill community feedback: release a new version of the forums software at http://forums.microsoft.com which breaks down with Firefox v2 so you only can reach it with IE. I agree with the connect site quality, it's simply crap. Funny thing is: it's brand new! They just released a major overhaul. Go figure. http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment5http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment5Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:35:45 GMTI've given up posting on connect. I believe it is to make you feel like you're making a difference when in reality you are not. Microsoft will have a huge and complex delivery path of functionality they want to release in subsequent product versions, and are not going to radically alter this on the whim of few geeks. It is, after all, the large enterprise that pays for the software licence and not the developer :) The most popular suggestions always seem to do with very specific issues related to the internals, and nothing to do with improving UI or other obvious quick wins. Also the connect site itself has the worst navigation of any website I have ever seen to bear the microsoft.com url. I agree with before/after RTM comment http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment4http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment4Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:27:17 GMTI have/had the same experiences with Connect. I also reported bugs which crashed the IDE (closed by design... huh? Which bonehead designed it that way?), crashed .net code or were simply feedback on render speed. For example the datagridview for winforms, it renders so incredibly slow, and this is still present in orcas b2. Yesterday I ran into a stupid .NET 3.5 bug. I thought, well.... let's see if they pick this one up and fix it, because it is a nasty one for everyone upgrading to .net 3.5. And what do you know! THey already picked it up and are working on it... amazing, the difference between bugs reported during beta and bugs reported after RTM: bugs reported after RTM are simply ignored and handled by a bunch of morons. http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment3http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment3Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:25:15 GMTYou mean Kedorbanot? http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment2http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment2Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:04:58 GMTWords like hobnails, as they say in Hebrew. Words like friggin hobnails. http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment1http://ayende.com/2667/how-to-kill-the-community-feedback-or-the-uselessness-of-microsoft-connect#comment1Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:00:54 GMT