http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660My magic 8-ball says I will create a FormBuilder dsl with this. http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment10http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment10Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:48:24 GMTI think the main fun of this is on xml generation. I agree with Ayende that in most cases HTML does not require such hassle. But in generating hierarchical document like xml, dsl like this has a lot of value. The fact is such script is way more easy to understand and use than using XmlWriter stuff. By the way, El, have you seen rxml from RoR? I think if you read that before you would pick up what Ayende said easier on this particular example. http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment9http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment9Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:17:32 GMTSorry, no offense intended at all and I didn't mean that to be written that way. I was just trying to make an observation (using the observer pattern) and didnt express myself well (I will try expression blend) http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment8http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment8Wed, 27 Jun 2007 03:12:19 GMT> rebellious malcontents I take offense at that, to tell you the truth. If you think that .Net 3.5 gives you all of that, feel free to use that, I have looked at that, and I am not seeing the option to make it work with the flexibility that I need to have. C# 3.0 has a few crumbles of this stuff, Boo has boat loads of it, and it is a significant difference. http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment7http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment7Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:56:48 GMTI want to like Monorail / Brail / Boo, but I just don't see the value. I don't want to spend another n cycles learning a new programming language that is off the beaten path and seems to be champtioned by rebellious malcontents. Especially when new things that I am burning valuable time learning seem to obsolete the whole rationale behind Boo itself anyway. Things like inferred delegates, things like type inference, I'm reading the "Boo Manifesto" and it seems like this stuff has already been address by MS in .NET 3.5 Please convince me I'm wrong? I must be missing something, but what? http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment6http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment6Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:45:09 GMTWhat about attributes? http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment5http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment5Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:03:47 GMTYou can use it with the layout as well, and the tests has a sample of using that. I just wanted to show a complete example http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment4http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment4Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:50:25 GMTGiven the fact, that html and body tags are usually part of the layout and not of the view itself, the first example is rather strange, as the bulk HTML generation is already done in a component (Grid). Second, when I remember how much pain it is to generate a simple link with MonoRails helper, I'm fine with HTML most of the time, but as you said, there are people who start shivering when their eyes catch angled brackets... http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment3http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment3Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:09:16 GMTStill not as nice as haml: http://haml.hamptoncatlin.com/ If i worked in monorail i would definitely create a haml view engine. And sass too http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment2http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment2Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:05:12 GMTNice! And I see it is already in the trunk, I will have to play with that later today! http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment1http://ayende.com/2598/dsl-support-for-brail#comment1Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:19:19 GMT