﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"><channel><title>Ayende @ Rahien</title><link>http://ayende.com</link><description>Ayende @ Rahien</description><copyright>Copyright (C) Ayende Rahien  2004 - 2021 (c) 2026</copyright><ttl>60</ttl><item><title>Greg Young commented on It is not a war, not even a hot argument</title><description>"Otherwise you could just have one table in the database and serialize out your objects to and from the db. That way you never have to worry about relational data or normalizing a database or tuning a database."
  
  
There are some object databases which work in this way ... Reporting has long since been their downfall but they can be quite good so long as you follow object relations (and at the defining of simple indexes). For a transactional DB they can be great but you are pretty much assured that you will need a seperate relational reporting db ... then again I think we realize this is actually the case most of the time anyways (especially if using DDD)
</description><link>http://ayende.com/2520/it-is-not-a-war-not-even-a-hot-argument#comment5</link><guid>http://ayende.com/2520/it-is-not-a-war-not-even-a-hot-argument#comment5</guid><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:55:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Ayende Rahien commented on It is not a war, not even a hot argument</title><description>If I need to use the DB capabilities for full text search, then usually I will wrap it in an HQL function or a custom ICriterion , both very trivial to build.
  
I prefer to use the lucene integration to NHibernate, though.
</description><link>http://ayende.com/2520/it-is-not-a-war-not-even-a-hot-argument#comment4</link><guid>http://ayende.com/2520/it-is-not-a-war-not-even-a-hot-argument#comment4</guid><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:01:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Chris Chew commented on It is not a war, not even a hot argument</title><description>Ayende, what about full text searching?
  
  
Ck
</description><link>http://ayende.com/2520/it-is-not-a-war-not-even-a-hot-argument#comment3</link><guid>http://ayende.com/2520/it-is-not-a-war-not-even-a-hot-argument#comment3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:24:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Ayende Rahien commented on It is not a war, not even a hot argument</title><description>&gt; serializing the object to the db, that was only a joke.
  
  
Don't joke, Ted Neward get a lot of mileage from telling about tools that do that, and there is an old Oracle FAQ that explains why you can't really do reporting over serialized java beans
</description><link>http://ayende.com/2520/it-is-not-a-war-not-even-a-hot-argument#comment2</link><guid>http://ayende.com/2520/it-is-not-a-war-not-even-a-hot-argument#comment2</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:56:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title>Kevin Isom commented on It is not a war, not even a hot argument</title><description>Ayende,
  
  
Dang, I feel all special now. I got my own Ayende blog post. I Don't feel that NHibernate would speed up my development process simply because I tend to think DB a little more than I think Object. At my previous job my boss was a recovering DBA and I always had to justify it by the DB and I guess old habits die hard. However I have a couple of developer friends that I suggested using NHibernate and Active Record to because it worked better for their way of thinking.
  
  
The venom comment was most about the whole CAB thing...It just seemed that everybody got way to agro about it.
  
  
And Oh, the serializing the object to the db, that was only a joke.
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