http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Dan, The reason we don't release more often is that there is usually no pressure for this. You see CTP and stuff like that from closed source projects, because they need this kind of visibility, there is more of a need to do official stuff. Beyond that, releasing a project is non-trivial in the amount of time that it takes. Documentation, setup, etc are all things that takes time, and that time has to come from somewhere. http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment7http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment7Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:35:57 GMTRunning on the NHibernate trunk has seemed unavoidable for some time -- what with the ICriteria functionality trickling out. That's no a slam on the NHib folks. God bless 'em for getting what they could out as soon as they could! No sooner do I need some feature (like outer joining), and wham is shows up in the trunk. http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment6http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment6Fri, 01 Jun 2007 05:54:14 GMTThanks for the link Ayende! For a long time I tried staying away from the trunk for the reasons you posted above. After awhile though, I broke down and started running off the trunk as there was significant improvements to the codebase that I wanted to leverage, testing support being the crown jewel. In addition to getting the added support of running from the trunk, you also get any patches that were applied since the last RC, which from my point of view is worth it. I have yet to run off NHibernate's trunk, as 99% of the features in the GA suffice in what I need. http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment5http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment5Thu, 31 May 2007 12:19:44 GMTFrom someone who uses the software, honestly it's makes it very difficult to keep up to date all the time. So, you'll write about something that isn't available, etc... I agree totally with Dan and wish there were more recent releases. Why have a 'RC' when you have trunk that everyone uses instead...(which means I have to pull down source code, build, etc... when all I want to do is use the product, not modify it) It's good you are on the cutting edge, your a developer on the team :) I'm just saying the people using the parts of it don't always do this - ie. I'm in the middle of developing a solution for a customer and don't want to be in constant flux on some parts I consider to be rock solid http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment4http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment4Thu, 31 May 2007 12:05:26 GMTI'm curious why don't these projects release more often if the trunk is stable enough for use? Castle took 10 months between RC1 and RC2, which is a long time to wait for an update for someone who doesn't run on the trunk. http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment3http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment3Thu, 31 May 2007 11:32:04 GMTsvn external is one way of doing it, but I am making significant changes rarely enough that it is not much of a pain. http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment2http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment2Thu, 31 May 2007 07:00:31 GMTRunning the trunks here too :) I wish there was an easier way to manage dependencies between projects. Its a pain to maintain my own minor Castle changes because it is stuck using NH 1.2GA. http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment1http://ayende.com/2463/running-on-the-trunk#comment1Thu, 31 May 2007 06:47:20 GMT