http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Trac, right now. http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment5http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment5Thu, 03 May 2007 03:54:49 GMTSo what do you like to use for defect tracking? http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment4http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment4Wed, 02 May 2007 21:56:41 GMTVI versus EMACS arguments are pointless and a waste of time. VI is the best. http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment3http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment3Wed, 02 May 2007 07:26:50 GMT> not spend a lot of money on system maintainance and configuration (OSS) and get our products shipped. I do too, that is why I am using the toolset that I do, because I don't want to deal with babysitting TFS. I config it once, and then forget it, literally. > I stand on the point that TFS and VSTS is a great bargain and is not free like a puppy. That is a non issue to me, since I am not the one paying for the thing :-) I am more concern on its usage. http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment2http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment2Wed, 02 May 2007 03:52:30 GMTLOL. You got me on a few there :). I feel my team has leaked money debating these issues of tools and process. I have seen so much time spent on the debate of red widgets vs. blue widgets that I think we can forget the real reason why we are all here: Shipping high quality product with spectacular new features. Frankly, I stand on the point that TFS and VSTS is a great bargain and is not free like a puppy. Further, I admit that Team System is v1.0 software. I gotta tell you, MS really hit a triple on this product. Maybe not a home run, but that can come on rev 2. They definately hit a triple thoug. With that in mind, I am anxious to simply use the tools to their fullest capacity, not spend a lot of money on system maintainance and configuration (OSS) and get our products shipped. Emacs rules, BTW. http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment1http://ayende.com/2353/integrated-tools-vs-collaborating-tools#comment1Wed, 02 May 2007 02:33:21 GMT