http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Ayende, you're not alone about realizing that TFS actually "gets in the way" of productivity. In fact, as a vendor of a competing tool, our sales have more than quadrupled since TFS' release. Every day, I hear customers telling us that they evaluated TFS and they couldn't get through the eval because it was too complex, hard to configure and in general, too rigid. It slows down teams. Of course, there are some good aspects, but the overall value isn't there and the price doesn't help either. If you get a chance to check out our project management/bug tracking tool, Axosoft's OnTime, let me know. I'd be happy to provide you with a 5-user license free ($500 value). Single-user licenses are free for everone. You can grab a copy (or try the free hosted version) here: http://www.axosoft.com. http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment5http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment5Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:15:44 GMTI think I covered it here: http://www.ayende.com/Blog/archive/2007/03/05/Do-you-use-OSS-tools-for-.Net-development.aspx http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment4http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment4Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:51:29 GMTHey, Could you write a post detailing what tools you use to do CI, version control, and in general - development? It would allow for bigger picture in this conversation you're having with Roy. Thanks http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment3http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment3Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:46:16 GMTWhy do people bang on about commercial vs open source support - it has very little to do with the financial model in place to fund the development of the software, and everything to do with the focus of the team - OSS & Commercial companies alike will often forgo or drag their heals on bug fixes when their focus is elsewhere (normally on a new project/product or version) - and the ever present "fear" of an OSS project going stale, with it no longer being supported or actively developer is just the same as a company deciding to no longer support one of their products which has proven buggy or unsuccessful in the market - perhaps you could state that Microsoft wont be abandoning TFS any time soon because of their shear might, but I would say products like SVN & Trac are just the same - and unlike the lock in Microsoft gets, the successful OSS products can't drop the ball on fixing bugs ASAP, or people will just migrate to a different product. Does Roy have shares in Microsoft ;o) http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment2http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment2Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:45:17 GMTI hope you and Roy are saving some energy on this one for our OSS panel next month. I've heard pro-VSTS folks slam the OSS tools for being tinker toys and difficult to integrate (not in my experience, but it's their story), but many of these same pro-VSTS folks sell consulting services to set up VSTS. If VSTS is so easy to get up and going, why are people able to make a living doing just that? http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment1http://ayende.com/2341/tfs-vs-open-source-tools#comment1Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:39:41 GMT