http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Just wanted to say that I appreciate the comments about the zombie grind. We need more influential people in the community speaking out against this sort of madness. In my experience, at least, it's still an all too common expectation.http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment12http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment12Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:28:05 GMTDaniel, There is also a world of difference between being a founder and being an employee. Also, for me it tends to come in spike, I'll have the muse and work for 18 hours days for a few days, then fall back to six hours day for a week after that. Having the muse is _super_ important for me, and it is worth it.http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment11http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment11Fri, 01 Feb 2013 06:49:38 GMTSome people are just built to put the grind on. I shudder to think what his WoW character would look like :)http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment10http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment10Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:09:14 GMTHy oren Why do you consider yourself an exception to this rule? I always wondered what the bus factor of RavenDB is? But certainly if you keep up this pace... your not getting younger :) just thinking out loud!http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment9http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment9Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:35:07 GMTWhen I worked there, I don't think I _ever_ showed up as early as 11 :Phttp://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment8http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment8Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:40:25 GMTSabanito, There is release and there there is release. For unstable releases, it is the CI job. For stable releases, we do a LOT of checks.http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment7http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment7Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:50:04 GMTOh! Ok, but you have some kind of checking routine for the release? Or is it handled 100% by some CI server?http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment6http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment6Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:42:26 GMTsabanito, I was sarcastically referring to the tendency of some companies to make it really hard to release. Here is an example (doc file): http://www.construx.com/File.ashx?cid=1214http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment5http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment5Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:18:50 GMTCould you explain what are the " Thirteen Steps to Properly Release Software"? Any links that explain this? thanks!http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment4http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment4Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:54:31 GMTNjy, For the past week, I have been stopping work at 3 - 4 AM. So yes, I think that I qualify for that statement.http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment3http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment3Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:17:22 GMTSo Oren... basically... you are a zombie? How does it work with the others at lunch time :) ?http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment2http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment2Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:11:26 GMT"An important rule of thumb, if you are still the office by 7 PM, you have better showed up at 11, just because zombies are cool nowadays doesn’t mean you have to be one" This is so true. People think working 12 hour days is good, and bosses love you for it. But all you are doing is introducing bugs due to coding while tired. http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment1http://ayende.com/160900/hibernating-rhinos-practices-development-workflow#comment1Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:46:18 GMT