http://ayende.comAyende @ RahienCopyright (C) Ayende Rahien 2004 - 2021 (c) 202660Have you seen http://clientdependency.codeplex.com/ ?http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment12http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment12Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:12:28 GMTFrank, But it doesn't impact anyone _else_ who is using it.http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment11http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment11Tue, 07 Jun 2011 07:06:39 GMTAlex, All of the stuff that I talked about are using the .NET dll, it is just different ways of invoking it.http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment10http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment10Tue, 07 Jun 2011 07:06:10 GMTI don't know if you know this, but Chirpy uses the dotlesscss framework underneath and we do provide a HttpHandler that you can register in your web.config that can be shared through Git and that works quite well during development. And when you go to production you can use the accompanying dotless compiler to turn the .less into regular CSS avoiding any incurring costs. Or, you could use the dotless.compiler all the time during development as it includes a --watch option that will re-generate all your .css files whenever your .less files change. more info on dotlesscss: http://www.dotlescss.org greetings Danielhttp://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment9http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment9Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:06:30 GMTresharper has had a very negative impact on my development experience. Using VS without resharper drives me almost to insanity.http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment8http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment8Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:38:34 GMTSo why were you using the weird extensions and .js and not the .Net dll (http://www.dotlesscss.org/) and have everything just the way you wanted?http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment7http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment7Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:36:18 GMTYeah I would go with lesscss.orghttp://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment6http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment6Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:51:42 GMTLess.js is also another option which is pretty good. It compiles less to css and loads it on the fly when the page loads. http://lesscss.org/ http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment5http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment5Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:19:59 GMTWe use the dotless parser directly from code to generate custom CSS for a white-labelled application (and MVC output caching does the rest). No tooling required. http://samritchie.net/2011/05/23/dotlessresult-mvc-actionresult-for-dotless/http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment4http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment4Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:00:39 GMTSecond the HttpModule approach, it gives you exactly the same editing experience as plain CSS with all the benefits of less css. I mainly stayed away from Chirpy because I didn't want all the bloat of designer generated files everywhere (even if you can join them together for inclusion). I'm 50/50 when it comes to designer tools, anything that could be edited usually requires a compilation/minification step of some sort before going to production (including JS and CSS on most apps). If I need to be monkey patching live CSS, the generated output from CSS less is very easy to follow.http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment3http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment3Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:04:55 GMTdotless also has a HttpModule so it can compile and cache less files at runtime, although I am not sure if it can detect live file changes.http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment2http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment2Mon, 06 Jun 2011 10:47:00 GMTAyende, I use less css on one of my projects. I solved this problem by using the compiler executable from the dotless project, and adding a build step to my .csproj file. I have the compiler checked in to source control. Any developer who works on my project can check the code out and just hit F5 with no extensions/plugins required.http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment1http://ayende.com/13313/fix-the-code-not-the-tooling#comment1Mon, 06 Jun 2011 10:41:46 GMT